What do you Nuke users edit with?

[DajaVu]

What do you Nuke users edit with? Just curious.

[Tagger]

usually fcp, sometimes avid

[Lukasz Omasta]

fcp unfortunately, but I'm placing high hopes with lightworks.

[jbgodin]

Most of the time FCP. But I miss a image sequence based editor. Lightworks in a near future I hope !

[Decoy]

currently on Final Cut Pro, even tho it seems to annoy me more n more the longer I use it. thus eagerly awaiting lightworks for mac :)

[Pissupoosa]

currently Premiere Pro... i didnt know of this lightworks thing.. need to look into it :D

[beaker]

SMAK, it handles image sequences better then fcp or avid. Though I don't always have access to a box with it, so I revert to FCP on my laptop.

[alkali]

Premiere (also handles sequences like a champ), but I've got high hopes for Lightworks as well.

[Tagger]

Why lightworks ? i worked with it in the past and i don't really like it ...

or has it changed that much over the years ?

[srinu2]

i don't no about light works ... i hope is should try at least for knowledge sake...

thank you all..

[srinu2]

as about the premier it is relly great for editing and for the ae which is layer based and DF is somewhat not to be off the line...

i hope thst also good and the combustion as for the 3dsmax max peoples aand df or AE for general works may be depends on the one,s choices ... you see....

[jasonhuang1115]

Hi,
Can Premiere CS4 handle EXR image sequences? I did a quick search and could find any links mentioning that.
I am at the point of editing a mix of sources footages, including video footages (avi or what not) and exr sequences rendered out of Nuke and am wondering what would be the ideal workflow?
If Premiere cannot take exr sequences, should I edit in AE instead?

[coolchipper]

For me its Sony Vegas

[beaker]

Can Premiere CS4 handle EXR image sequences? I did a quick search and could find any links mentioning that.
I am at the point of editing a mix of sources footages, including video footages (avi or what not) and exr sequences rendered out of Nuke and am wondering what would be the ideal workflow?
If Premiere cannot take exr sequences, should I edit in AE instead?Editors don't use the full high quality image sequences to edit with. You edit with some type of quicktime or dnxhd and then only in the finishing/conform stage do you move to image sequences.

Also It depends what your final delivery is. Not all places will take exr for final delivery so it may be overkill. Most will take some form of dpx. If your only going to television or the web then often it is a waste of time using image sequences, just finish with prores or dnxhd files.

[jasonhuang1115]

Editors don't use the full high quality image sequences to edit with. You edit with some type of quicktime or dnxhd and then only in the finishing/conform stage do you move to image sequences.

Also It depends what your final delivery is. Not all places will take exr for final delivery so it may be overkill. Most will take some form of dpx. If your only going to television or the web then often it is a waste of time using image sequences, just finish with prores or dnxhd files.

Thanks, beaker. Editing with low-rez quicktime or dnxhd and do the conforming with hi-rez image sequences seem a bit overkill to me. My final delivery is 720P demo reel for web. My source footage is mainly:
a) 720P exr rendered out of Nuke: for this I would like to preserve the quality with least compression downstream until the final output render in the editing application.
b) screen recording rendered as .mp4 files (or avi): for this, the quality can be compromised as it's already compressed once when output from the screen recording application.

So, I am expecting the workflow to be as simple as:
Nuke exr sequences + mp4 > editing app. > final output for HD 720P web streaming (personal webhost, youtube, vimeo, etc.)

In this scenario, what would you do to achieve the highest quality with the simplest workflow?

[beaker]

Since it is a demo reel just edit with what you have. Depending your editor just make some type of high quality avi/quicktime files out of your exr files. If you have the resolution I would master in 1080p and only make 720p when you compress for the web. As the final step out of your editor create a single high quality quicktime or avi file. Then compress your web version from that.

[Gentle Fury]

gedit ;)

[jasonhuang1115]

Since it is a demo reel just edit with what you have. Depending your editor just make some type of high quality avi/quicktime files out of your exr files. If you have the resolution I would master in 1080p and only make 720p when you compress for the web. As the final step out of your editor create a single high quality quicktime or avi file. Then compress your web version from that.
Thanks, Beaker. Guess I will use After Effects as it'll take exr sequnces and mp4/avi.

[scrimski]

Editors don't use the full high quality image sequences to edit with. You edit with some type of quicktime or dnxhd and then only in the finishing/conform stage do you move to image sequences.
Qfa. Especially when editing überformats like 4K R3d material I would advise to down convert it to HD and the apps native codec(ProRes422 for FCP or DNxHD for Avid). The time it takes for down conversion is worth the hassle you save when you have to work with proxies, not to mention the hardware requirements(yes, they all claim to be able to work with the raw footage in native resolution and yaddayadda, but in my experience reality is slightly different to what marketing claims).

On a recent job shot on Red on green screen I used 720p ProRes Quicktimes for the edit and handed out xml files for the post facility for rendering out the dpx sequences from the source footage on-site which they needed for the comp, which went quite well.


My final delivery is 720P demo reel for web.Compress straight to 720p. Anyhthing else is - from an editors and economic POV - not necessary.

FCP doesn't like file sequences, so you're better off with QT movies or QT containers, Avid converts when importing anyway(unless using AMA).
Keep the original source files in case you need a better resolution, in that case rerender in a better resolution and relink the media files in your editing app.

[srinu2]

hi

one can use hd editing with eudius sft also... not of sure..
someone i worked gave this details..

thank you

sri

[svendejong]

Flame

[javashrine]

So just on this topic, is this a viable workflow for Nuke and FCP? I'm new to FCP so I'd like to keep the quality as best as possible to the last render.

I'm filming on a Canon550D which creates a .MOV MPEG-4 AVC, H.264 1080p (does that sound right, I've only started playing with QT and trying to figure out it's formats?).

So should I take those .MOVs and create some smaller proxy files just to get the timing and stuff right first in FCP?

When I'm happy with that should I then convert the full size .MOV files in Nuke (or FCP? Which way would get the better (highest quality) results?) to an EXR sequence to work with in Nuke and then render out another set of Quicktimes (ProRes(HQ)?) per shot to slot back into FCP?

Hope this makes sense!!

[alexandru]

yes, your workflow sounds fine. there's no quality loss when converting from MOV H.264 into EXR, so you can use either nuke or FCP. i'd suggest FCP since nuke is created for compositing, not for converting between formats.

[javashrine]

Excellent, thanks. I just wanted to clarify things before I jumped in to a new project next week.

[scrimski]

I'm filming on a Canon550D which creates a .MOV MPEG-4 AVC, H.264 1080p (does that sound right, I've only started playing with QT and trying to figure out it's formats?).

So should I take those .MOVs and create some smaller proxy files just to get the timing and stuff right first in FCP?Convert into ProRes using Compressor or the like. Editing H264 can be pita in FCP.
FCP doesn't work well with file sequences so stay away from exr for editing.
And instead of FCP I would use Color for the conversion to/from exr.

[jclepev]

I was editing in Openshot, lacking of linux options.
It is nice, but i'm interested in lightworks port as well
:)

[darsha]

I was editing in Openshot, lacking of linux options.
It is nice, but i'm interested in lightworks port as well
:)

Rooting for Lightworks too, they can make it big time if the port goes well.

[shaneholloman]

What do you Nuke users edit with? Just curious.

the Dope Sheet editor if you're already in Nuke - check out the manual and the foundry just posted a great youtube vid about it