Learning Rotoscope art

[Tañedor]

Hello everybody!
This is my first and second rotoscopes.
I have created frame to frame using photoshop 7.
I do not have best know in any composition softwares, now I am learning a little shake, but I think that shake
They can not be done rotoscopes of fine details such as hair or any other with a lot of details.
I am now making a small reel to show my art rotoscoping frame with a frame for fine detail.
The bad news is that each frame brings me at least 10 or 15 minutes of work and at least one day to explore the best technique for the process of creating detailed masks.
I used film footage taken from the trailers, as they were with HD quality, and I thought it was a good idea, because I do not have to get recourses material otherwise. Besides using sequences of films is also something that motivates me a lot.
I think the technique frame to frame may be valid for complicated sequences are impossible to re-shoot.
I hope to get a job as rotoartis someday, learn and jump to compositor one day.
Thank you all for seeing my work.
Please excuse me bad english.

[Tañedor]

Ok, I upload a litle mov (sorenson codec)

[Millionflame]

You can use Shake for rotoscoping things like hair. It just involves more points than usual, and a lot of edge feathering.

[Tañedor]

Millionflame, thank you for your comment.
Excuse me, could you rotoscoping this image with Shake or some such similar Hair? I am really intrigued.




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Thinking that you can do to shake?

[quantum mechanic]

For details like hair, roto (spline) is probably not the best route, Keying out a rough roto would likely be much faster.

Nice work BTW, you've created great mattes, I'm curious how they work in motion though. Using keying or roto splines saves you from frame by frame work and reduces the chance of jittery mattes.

You've definitely got a good eye for detail, if you learn the tools and tricks of the trade you will definitely find work as a roto artist.

[Tañedor]

"Quantum mechanic" Thank you for your comments and support.
YES!, these matters can be resolved in production using chroma keying, is something elemental, but the question is not that ... When I started with rotoscope, I thought in a case study where the chroma key could not be used, a good example might be when it comes to where I had to use material rotoscope historical material (Forrest Gump) it can be a good example...For example if you need rotoscope the president Kennedy. The only thing that was trying to demonstrate is that one can be prepared for everything. Thanks for your support, you can see a video in medium resolution in the same post rar file in a little more up. It is not perfect, but it is my first rotoscope and I hope improve with the second.
Thanks and excuse me english.

[Filsmith]

Dear all, I started learn Shake software, but I am wandering how to apply soft edge to the shape mask without edge point. Since of 6 years I am using only Fusion compositing software and there it is clear but now I am a little confused. Also how to apply tracker path to roto shape center? Thanks in advance!

[Millionflame]

Dear all, I started learn Shake software, but I am wandering how to apply soft edge to the shape mask without edge point. Since of 6 years I am using only Fusion compositing software and there it is clear but now I am a little confused. Also how to apply tracker path to roto shape center? Thanks in advance!

Instead of grabbing the roto points as a group, use the edge select option and when you move a point it will then move the edge feathering instead.

If you look at the UI toolset that comes up with the rotoshape / quickshape, there are buttons called "Group" "Main" "Edge" "Any".

"Edge" is the one you want to manipulate the feathering. "Group" moves both points together.

[Redsandro]

You did an excellent job on those images, and the 2nd one has some fine hair detail. Is that just shake splines? It looks like there's no problem, but maybe it's too time consuming.

[Tañedor]

Hi Redsandro, thank you for your coment.
All work its made with photoshop only, no shake, you can see a litle animation 8 positions more up. Now I am making a demo reel using Shake and phtoshop in combination. I am looking for job in industrie or film. I have 12 years of hard experience with graphical designer and I wont switch to composition, but I think rotoscope art its very good opportunity to start. Best Regards. (excuse me bad english)

[avillabon]

Hey tañedor, good job with your roto work! my only comment is that in the video you posted there seems to be some kind of a flicker in the hair of the actress, this of course may be because you are working frame by frame and therefore there is no interpolation between frames. I would really recommend you give shake, nuke, or fusion a try to rotoscope, you can achieve the same amount of detail and perhaps it wont be much faster but its defenitelly doable! Good work though, just think how much time you can save through the magic of keyframes

Alex

[Tañedor]

Hey Alejandro! Thak you for your coments :-)
Yes, I am really sure I cant get the same work more fast using Shake or similar, for that reason I am making now a new scenes usin a pipeline between shake and photoshop. And of course, the video not is perfect... but I am trying to get a good result.
Thanks

[avillabon]

good to hear! good luck!

Alex

[Gentle Fury]

Its always great to know you can, but in a production roto is the LAST line of defense when all else fails. You tend to get that jittery motion that you were getting in yours and it is WAY time intensive. In a lot of instances you can pull some really nice keys with some math functions.

[Tañedor]

Thanks "Gentle Fury" of your coments, I only want make a reel for roto artist to get a job in a company of FXfilm. These way I can get experience and learn composition to the best resources and teachers. Sorry for me bad english...

Now, recent get with the toaster!! the first frame to me New secuence of roto. Of course, I never can participate in these film... I only use the footage in Hd to the trailer of the film 300 for learn and training.
The secuence its to 60 frames, I use Shake & Photoshop in combination, I think I can get very cool secuence with these particular tecnique.

I want make me first secuence of me reel with these secuence.
Thanks all people for your interesting