Timespeed issues

[Fincher]

Hi!
I have a new one:
To make it simple, there is a merge with 2 loaders of footage of the same length. I want footage A to run reverse. So I put a timespeed node between the loader an the merge an on the speed slider I type "-1".
Ok, it´s running reverse. But now Footage A starts on the second frame and the merge gets no input on first frame. Whats that?! And how can i get this footage back on the first frame?
Greedz

[avillabon]

wow that sounds quite strange.. check all of the merge's node characters, the problem is definitely on the merge. Mind posting it?

Alex

[ShadowMaker SdR]

Use the offset in the timespeed node.

[avillabon]

or check its placement in the timeline.. somehow it could have slipped a frame.

Alex

[Fincher]

naaa. its not that easy. If i use the delay and set it to "-1" it´s ok in the start. But then I´m missing a frame in the end.
You can trie it yourself with an easy flow with 3 or 4 nodes. timespeed set to -1 swallows 1 frame. Somehow funny.

[ShadowMaker SdR]

have you set the global range to extend further than the length of the shot?

[pingking]

why do you use a timespeed? why not check "reverse" on the loader directly?

[ShadowMaker SdR]

Pingking, this is not the place to get practical is it now? Djeesh... Getting easy results like this takes the fun out of finding complicated workarounds. I was just about to write a 100-line Fusionscript to do this.

[Fincher]

Well thats a thought, too.
But the problem still remains if I want to reverse by 50%. Or, well, I could reverse in the loader and then slow it down by timespeed.
My way in the meanwhile was using the timestretch. It´s a tiny bit more work, but who cares?

To Shadowmaker: Working on the global length didn´t work out...

[ShadowMaker SdR]

Fincher - just for the heck of it. Set the global in to be -1. I got it to work that way. I have no idea why this is, but it works for me.

[Fincher]

that works. but i´m losing 1 frm. ´cause when it slips back to -1 i still can only use the region between 0 and (end-1)
call me greedy, but when im doing 95 shots (like i am) and edit them back together 95 frms are quite something.

[ShadowMaker SdR]

No you won't lose a frame. Which version of Fusion are you running? I can make you a comp that shows you should be fine.

[Fincher]

I´m on 5.2.
A comp would be great!
Greedz

[ShadowMaker SdR]

Try this one. Remove the *.txt extension and you should be good to go.
I've tried this with a text+ tool which is valid over the whole range.
In your case you'll probably have to work with the 'hold first frame' or 'hold last frame' settings of your loaders. It's a bit of a pain, but it works pretty well once you figure it out.

Hope this helps.

[Fincher]

well thats it! of course. -1 and hold first frm. fusion should be outsmarted.
Thx!