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    Default Video Field Order Reference list – February 5th, 2003,05:42 AM
    Greetings:

    Most Combustion users who move their video files between
    editing applications such as Discreet edit, Premiere, FCP, Avid,
    etc. may at some time run into field problems, where their
    video may appear with visable field/scanning lines..

    (I know, I just did !)

    Therefore, I am posting the below List of Video Standards,
    with their related FIELD ORDER for reference...



    Reference List: FIELD ORDER of Video Signals........


    D-1 PAL -Discreet edit* PAL
    Frame size: 720 x 576
    Frame aspect ratio: 4:3
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.067
    Frame rate: 25 fps
    Field order: upper field first

    PAL Video Frame size: 768 x 576
    Frame aspect ratio: 4:3
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate: 25 fps
    Field order: lower field first

    PAL-DV Frame size: 720 x 576
    Frame aspect ratio: 5:4
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.067
    Frame rate: 25 fps
    Field order: lower field first

    PAL-DV Widescreen
    Frame size: 720 x 576
    Frame aspect ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.422
    Frame rate: 25 fps
    Field order: upper field first

    NTSC-DV Widescreen
    Frame size: 720 x 486
    Frame asp. ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.2
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: lower first

    NTSC-DV Frame size: 720 x 480
    Frame aspect ratio: 3:2
    Pixel aspect ratio: 0.9
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: lower first

    NTSC D-1 - Discreet edit* NTSC
    Frame size: 720 x 486
    Frame aspect ratio: 4:3
    Pixel aspect ratio: 0.9
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: lower field first

    NTSC Frame size: 640 x 480
    Frame aspect ratio: 4:3
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: upper first

    NTSC Full Frame size: 648 x 486
    Frame aspect ratio: 4:3
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: upper first

    HDTV 720/30p Frame size: 1280 x 720
    Frame aspect ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate: 30 fps
    Field order: upper field first

    HDTV 1080/24p Frame size: 1920 x 1080
    Frame aspect ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate:24 fps
    Field order: upper field first

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    February 5th, 2003,06:57 AM
    Thanks Jack, very handy
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    February 5th, 2003,10:30 AM
    That is a VERY useful reference guide - thanks for that, Jack...

    I'm definately going to remember that this is here, as I will want to use it!
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    February 24th, 2004,11:14 AM
    Was just trying to track this down as a reference and, on finding it right at the bottom of the forum, decided to make it a sticky....
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    April 4th, 2004,11:48 AM
    Good call
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    September 17th, 2004,01:02 PM
    You can add this one:

    PAL-DV Widescreen
    Frame size: 720 x 576
    Frame aspect ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.422
    Frame rate: 25 fps
    Field order: upper field first

    and

    NTSC-DV Widescreen
    Frame size: 720 x 486
    Frame asp. ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1.2
    Frame rate: 29.97 fps
    Field order: lower first
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    October 24th, 2004,09:13 AM
    Great list. I have a couple of questions though.

    1) I have always read that DV capture is always lower field first (irrespective of format and aspect ratio). In fact, searching for this information to make sure I hadn't recalled it incorrectly landed me on Creative Cow's web site where I found this mentioned here: http://www.creativecow.net/articles/...deinterlacing/ and also on greatdv website here: http://www.greatdv.com/video/fields.htm. Would appreciate if someone could clarify.

    2) I don't quite understand the field order relevance to progressive scan video as the fields are recorded at the same time. I know you get the option of outputting the fields in a specified order or as frames, but even if you do interlace the footage does the field order have relevence here? Once again, I appreciate any clarification on this point.

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    January 23rd, 2007,05:34 AM
    Thanx a lot Jack. It's very helpful and useful.
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    January 23rd, 2007,09:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jackpfeiffer
    HDTV 720/30p Frame size: 1280 x 720
    Frame aspect ratio: 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: 1
    Frame rate: 30 fps
    Field order: upper field first
    how does progressive footage get to be "upper field first" (or lower for that mather) ?
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    March 20th, 2007,09:39 AM
    hey guys, added this to the wiki here

    http://www.vfxtalk.com/vfxwiki/index...eo_Field_Order

    so its easier to find (under resources) and se we can help to keep it up2date!
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    January 17th, 2008,02:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by LJR View Post
    Great list. I have a couple of questions though.

    1) I have always read that DV capture is always lower field first (irrespective of format and aspect ratio). In fact, searching for this information to make sure I hadn't recalled it incorrectly landed me on Creative Cow's web site where I found this mentioned here: http://www.creativecow.net/articles/...deinterlacing/ and also on greatdv website here: http://www.greatdv.com/video/fields.htm. Would appreciate if someone could clarify.
    I'm sure that DV PAL anamorphic is Lower field first too.

    About the wiki... could someone fix the CSS ? the hover state of links between pages are white just like the background.
    Last edited by vfxjbg; January 17th, 2008 at 02:23 PM.
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