Can you Mentor me?

[cglab1006]

Sure man

Keep doing all the efforts and one day you will got the success!!!
we can do think about shot and we will try to solve that shot.
Bye my mail id is manish.sharma103@gmail.com

[Tagger]

what i don't get, is the "non-lucrative" part in your offer. You want to start a company, and you want somebody to give you all their knowledge (basicly) so that YOU can make money (which is basicly the point of starting your own company in the first place)? that doesn't make sense.
I would at least offer them a piece of the pie in the long run then...

[Gentle Fury]

Thank you, I am trying that too but not for an entry level though. Also, I am trying to put my ideas into a small VFX demo movie reel where I can showcase my ideas.

Unfortunately that's not how this industry works. No experience = Entry Level. You will NOT be hired to anything but a jr with no actual experience, no matter how amazing your reel is. The way hiring works is...they look at your resume...if they see something that peeks their interest they look at your reel...not the other way around. If you have no experience they might look at your reel if they need jrs...otherwise it will go straight to trash....sorry but that's the reality.

[jispro]

Hello , I agree with gentle fury, is no way to learn everything in 1 year. And also your intentions are lucrative, like everyone. So, this kind of posting I don't like it to much, one of the big problems of the industry is that the owners do not know anything about visual effects, they just have contacts, if you want the 100% of your company, do a software company not a vfx company, like they guys are telling to you, if you want to found a company with experienced people, you will have to share the %, so this kind of NON LUCRATIVE 'i really do not get it'.
By the way... I have 5 professional years in the industry going to 6, and 7 years of learning during my teenage time. Conclusion? You just want to get all the knowledge for free, this is completely wrong and say a lot about your intentions.
Like gentle fury says: that's the reality

[mhafeez_13666]

what i don't get, is the "non-lucrative" part in your offer. You want to start a company, and you want somebody to give you all their knowledge (basicly) so that YOU can make money (which is basicly the point of starting your own company in the first place)? that doesn't make sense.
I would at least offer them a piece of the pie in the long run then...

Sorry friend, you are mis-interpreting. If you notice, I have not "yet" started the company and it is a long run thing. I needed help to guide me (mentoring) to reach there. Mentoring is a honorable jesture which is done if the person is genuinely interested in the upkeep of the mentee.

If you can trust my honesty or read through my posts so far in VFXtalk and think I am genuine, then I am sure you will agree that if I do start the company then my mentor will be my advisor, partner, board of director, or anything he/she wants.

Right now I am not making any money other than my day job.

I appreciate your question, please do let me know if you have any concerns.

[mhafeez_13666]

Unfortunately that's not how this industry works. No experience = Entry Level. You will NOT be hired to anything but a jr with no actual experience, no matter how amazing your reel is. The way hiring works is...they look at your resume...if they see something that peeks their interest they look at your reel...not the other way around. If you have no experience they might look at your reel if they need jrs...otherwise it will go straight to trash....sorry but that's the reality.

Hi Gentle Fury, thanks for this reality tip. I was looking for such tips to understand how this industry works 'coz it is the opposite in software. Thanks, I will keep a note of this.

[mhafeez_13666]

Hello , I agree with gentle fury, is no way to learn everything in 1 year. And also your intentions are lucrative, like everyone. So, this kind of posting I don't like it to much, one of the big problems of the industry is that the owners do not know anything about visual effects, they just have contacts, if you want the 100% of your company, do a software company not a vfx company, like they guys are telling to you, if you want to found a company with experienced people, you will have to share the %, so this kind of NON LUCRATIVE 'i really do not get it'.
By the way... I have 5 professional years in the industry going to 6, and 7 years of learning during my teenage time. Conclusion? You just want to get all the knowledge for free, this is completely wrong and say a lot about your intentions.
Like gentle fury says: that's the reality

Hi, Please read my response to "tagger" who also questioned the same thing.

I am still in the infant stage of starting the company and there is no way I can think of a lucrative offer for my mentor unless he/she demands it upfront.

Please don't draw conclusions of my intentions by a few words written in this post. My ask right now is genuine and not lucrative.

I am sorry if this post disturbed you but I have no intention to grab/take someone's knowledge and use it for my lucrative needs.

[shanvfx26]

I have been in this industry for some years.Any suggestions regarding vfx you can mail me to shanvfx@gmail.com

[shanvfx26]

Hi mhafeez,


If you need any suggestions you can mail to shanvfx@gmail.com

[shanvfx26]

Hi Mhafeez ,

Any doubts regarding vfx you can mail to shanvfx at the rate of gmail .

[Andreas.Jablonka]

[moved to pro forum]

[nmpribeiro]

Hum... i've read all this... and I beg to differ from most of the observations here...
The industry is whatever HUMANS want it to be.... so, NO EXPERIENCE = NO JOB? well, smells like some Peripheric countries in EU. no... not the case for VFX. The secret in VFX is: can you REALLY master THIS shot?
I have started to surf the field late 2008, after I completed a Video crap degree (lol).. did it gave me the basis? NOP... did it made me sucessfully employed? NOP.... so... the real thing was when I put some CG in a hand held shot, and started to model 3D for whatever I wanted to make, and descruted whatever geometry I wanted and learned to make particles, fire, smoke, cloth, characters... whatever... Am I experienced? I guess people in HR that are receiving my resume don't think so... and I sent it to many countries for a life change....
so... what DOES MATTER?
well... are you able to fill a stadium with CG people? I am... so.... I can do it... am I equipped to do that? not as I would like, but... for the right time I do make it... (people and stadium included... render passes included... texturing... modeling... compositing in whatever you want AE, Nuke... bahh)
the thing is... how much does the client wants to pay to you for that shot? are you able to meet the client requests? (and if you'r not... can you learn it in time?)

The rest is just crap... and before 2006, I did not knew 3D at all... am I certified? NOP... no money no gain... that's our global environment now :]

good business

[nmpribeiro]

The thing is... humans can be intelligent

[Andreas.Jablonka]

Hum... i've read all this... and I beg to differ from most of the observations here...
The industry is whatever HUMANS want it to be.... so, NO EXPERIENCE = NO JOB? well, smells like some Peripheric countries in EU. no... not the case for VFX. The secret in VFX is: can you REALLY master THIS shot?
I have started to surf the field late 2008, after I completed a Video crap degree (lol).. did it gave me the basis? NOP... did it made me sucessfully employed? NOP.... so... the real thing was when I put some CG in a hand held shot, and started to model 3D for whatever I wanted to make, and descruted whatever geometry I wanted and learned to make particles, fire, smoke, cloth, characters... whatever... Am I experienced? I guess people in HR that are receiving my resume don't think so... and I sent it to many countries for a life change....
so... what DOES MATTER?
well... are you able to fill a stadium with CG people? I am... so.... I can do it... am I equipped to do that? not as I would like, but... for the right time I do make it... (people and stadium included... render passes included... texturing... modeling... compositing in whatever you want AE, Nuke... bahh)
the thing is... how much does the client wants to pay to you for that shot? are you able to meet the client requests? (and if you'r not... can you learn it in time?)

The rest is just crap... and before 2006, I did not knew 3D at all... am I certified? NOP... no money no gain... that's our global environment now :]

good business

the problem is NOT the skill
its that you will not even get this job. if a client or HR does not believe in your skills (demoreel) they wont consider you. so its a catch 22 thing.
nobody will give you the big stadium shot. sure they it done in a week for $1000 but thats AFTER they deemed your worthy and capable.

[nmpribeiro]

Or you could build up a stadium from scratch and fill it with crowd just to show it up :]

But uhmm... yes, in that way it's true. However, you could negotiate directly with production and or clients (if they understand what is involved)... just untill someone recognizes you (and hope to earn suficient funds not to blow your production up)

I think we're being too much scrutinized everywhere and in every field